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SPOTLIGHT: Building a hypersonics industry, with Duncan Watt and Mat Jones

SPOTLIGHT: Building a hypersonics industry, with Duncan Watt and Mat Jones

In this episode of the Defence Connect Spotlight podcast, Duncan Watt, general manager of guided weapons and hypersonics at Thales, and Mat Jones, head of future business at BAE Systems Australia, join host Phil Tarrant to discuss how the companies have teamed up to build a sovereign hypersonics and guided weapons capability.

In this episode of the Defence Connect Spotlight podcast, Duncan Watt, general manager of guided weapons and hypersonics at Thales, and Mat Jones, head of future business at BAE Systems Australia, join host Phil Tarrant to discuss how the companies have teamed up to build a sovereign hypersonics and guided weapons capability.


  • The podcast begins with a discussion of the Thales and BAE Systems Australia partnership, where homegrown intellectual property is being utilised to build a unique missile solution.
  • They continue discussing how Australia is well positioned to develop hypersonic deterrent, having maintained significant research from Nulka and the Evolved SeaSparro.
  • Watt and Jones also discuss the broader concept of hypersonic deterrence, explaining that the industry is not simply aiming to develop one single prototype but an entire industrial ecosystem to produce capabilities at scale. 

Enjoy the podcast,
The Defence Connect Team

Listen to previous episodes of the Defence Connect podcast:

Episode 510: CONTESTED GROUND: Iran’s collapsing sphere of influence
Episode 509: DEFENCE PROPERTY PODCAST: Understanding the ever-changing landscape of regional property investment
Episode 508: PODCAST: A proud history of providing debate and connecting sailors, with Mark Schweikert, federal president, Navy League of Australia
Episode 507: SPOTLIGHT: GWEO – protecting Australian sovereignty, with Lockheed Martin Missiles and Fire Control’s James Heading
Episode 506: CONTESTED GROUND: Ukraine’s freedom of manoeuvre in the information domain
Episode 505: SPOTLIGHT: AUKUS Pillar II – how technology sharing is strengthening our national security, with FAS Stephen Moore and Dr Nigel McGinty
Episode 504: PODCAST: Unleashing Australian know-how to grow military power fast, with John Storey, Institute of Public Affairs
Episode 503: CONTESTED GROUND: The intersection of national security and Australia’s declining economic performance
Episode 502: SPOTLIGHT: Developing risk frameworks for Defence, with Atturra’s Andrew Balmaks
Episode 501: CONTESTED GROUND: Maritime competition drives need for an Australian Coast Guard, with Jennifer Parker

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