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PODCAST: No escaping it, China is trying to coerce us, with Mike Pezullo

In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by former secretary of home affairs, Mike Pezzullo, to unpack the precedent established by Beijing’s naval taskforce circumnavigating Australia and how to deal with more in the future.

In this episode of the Defence Connect Podcast, host Steve Kuper is joined by former secretary of home affairs, Mike Pezzullo, to unpack the precedent established by Beijing’s naval taskforce circumnavigating Australia and how to deal with more in the future.

The pair discuss a range of issues, including:

  • The government’s response to, and the timeline behind the notice of the Chinese naval taskforce’s live-fire training exercises in the Tasman Sea.
  • The tactical and strategic ramifications and shortfalls on display in the Australian Defence Force and government’s response to the taskforce.
  • A suggested crash course program to rapidly accelerate Australia’s level of tactical and strategic preparedness within the next term of Parliament.

Enjoy the podcast,
The Defence Connect team

Listen to previous episodes of the Defence Connect podcast:

Episode 11: SPOTLIGHT: The role of test and evaluation in securing AI’s role in defence and national security, with Graeme Bick, Ray Bright and Chris White
Episode 10: CONTESTED GROUND: Alliance abandonment and realpolitik in global affairs
Episode 9: PODCAST: A taste of things to come, with shadow minister for defence Andrew Hastie
Episode 8: PODCAST: Getting our naval force structure right, with Jennifer Parker
Episode 7: CONTESTED GROUND: The expanding world of state-sponsored cyber warfare
Episode 6: SPOTLIGHT: Training – key to the National Defence Strategy, with CAE’s James Digges
Episode 5: PODCAST: Unpacking the impacts of a disruptive new US Defense secretary
Episode 4: PODCAST: Threats, theatre and tariffs in Trump’s world, with the Defence Connect team
Episode 3: CONTESTED GROUND: Regaining the qualitative advantage
Episode 2: CONTESTED GROUND: What’s in store for 2025? Part 2

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